My post earlier was intended to say 'You can only set rules for Honour to a certain extent'.  In other words - give K'Hare some slack and some credit for having sense.
 
I know to expect things to sometimes come out with surprising answers with things like this.
 
Sparring and real fighting is very different.  K'Hare might well best K'rahl in such events.  In a real fight K'rahl is likely to have a slight edge.  He just isn't used to trying not to kill someone. (obviously sparring with friends he copes better.  For one he doesn't want to kill them and for two he doesn't care if he gets knocked on his ass.  Of course there isn't a single player character on this list right now that he counts as a friend...  Q'olavraH remember means more to him and all the other PC friends he has are elsewhere)
 
K'rahl, Q'olavraH, K'Hare and Ta'pez have simply been around way longer than all the other Klingons in BF.  So comparing the four of us to the screen its like we were in the first series and everyone else has come and gone.  Stands to reason we are likely to be considered just that bit more skilled.  Its all in the weave and we four know that the balance is fragile.

Yeah, its a little surprising.  You hit about 60% of the time, and K'rahl blocked about 50% of your hits.
 
K'rahl hit about 75% of the time and you blocked not quite 40% of them.
 
That sounds closer then you'd expect.  But the two things to follow up with are:  K'rahl spars with Hunter... Hunter should do about the same but I'd expect slightly worse and K'rahl disarms with Ing.  The disarm match should be worse for Ing.
 
I said it before but essentually sparring gives you a big bonus to hit.  The idea is you aren't taking things as seriously so its easier to connect with the armor (glancing blows) and easier to ignore them.  Right now all the modifications are fixed.  That is, the bonus for Ing and K'rahl in sparring is the same.  I could (and maybe should change it) so that the bonus sparring is based on your skill... so it K'rahl's attack was twice as good, his increased chance to hit would be twice that of Ing.
 
Does that follow?  For example, in the old D&D system.  The penalty to hit someone you can't see is -4... no matter how good you are.  Should it by something like 25% of your THAC0 'bonus' for your level instead?
 
 
Someone asked about the logic of rank in the skill stuff.  This is a holdover from the previous betleH system.  In one sense, we have rank as something that we can equate into D&D levels.  It has the right feel under the old D&D system.  Of course, it means an Ensign is always a crappy fighter.  It also means you can't have the occasional Ensign who is a kick-ass fighter.  In the RPG world, do you really want to start with a character with a THAC0 of 2 at first level?
 
Of course, we aren't in an RPG... but when you talk about the tourney, or even just one simm... how can I decide if roS or Sallon is the better fighter?  In some sense, using rank hurts my players, since they were all cadets!
 
Certainly in the Klingon context, we would not expect a lousey fighter to make it to a high rank.  Even if he was lucky, eventualy he'd be tested and fall short.  (shutup ta'pez... no need for a one liner here.)
 
But none of that is my justification for using it.  I ask the question the other way.  Is K'rahl, as an 'ech, a better fighter than K'rahl was, as a ne'?  I would hope so... and that experience is what makes high rank count.  So the system makes sure we don't have ensigns who are Dahar masters but after captain, it really doesn't add much.  I am considering changing the math slightly.  No one should notice the difference, I just need to make the system a little more fair to the high ranking NCOs.

Quote from Ing The Puny on Nov 18^th, 2005, 5:01am:

 
 
I see what you mean but I don't think its a problem.  I'd worry more but I had the counting code so messed up in the first pass that I had to seriously look at it.  What should be true, unless I make a math error, is that the number of hits, times blocked, misses, and rests should be equal to each other and the number of rounds... since those are the only 4 things you can do... hit, hit but be blocked, miss, or rest.  I will think about it though.

So you will see 6 new fights clumped together.  K'Hare fighting ta'pez and krahl.  I will remove them later since I forced the combats and the other two didn't accept...  I did find a bug that was making K'Hare's defense too high.  It was a left over from when I was coding the app and I had hardcoded some stuff before I had it reading the fighters files.  It did effect someone else too.. but I wont say who.  The next effect was it made K'Hare impossible to hit except with a critical.  But that's fixed now.  So I ran the six matchs and they still don't look as close as they ought to be.  So I will dig for another bug.  I need to try for Honorable vs. Dirty a few times too to see if that makes up for the difference.

*Points to a recording of his fight against qul'yIt*  That my boy is how to do it.
 
*Frem's son yelps as he is hit over the lobes*

well keep this open   - stamina and  reach should do some tooo
 
 
i still think that tactics are important too

Something else I was thinking about...
 
Most of the time, I would expect to see Klingons fight with Honor, not Great Honor.  Fighting with Great Honor means everytime you hit your opponent, you step back and give them a chance to recover... at least, that's the major thing that is implemented now.  
 
But that might be too far, it might be giving too much away.  What I might do is take that out... and make some strategy select that puts that move back in.  The problem is this.  Assume A is slightly better than B.  If both A and B are fighting with Great Honor, then whenever one hits the other, they step apart and rest.  So the winner is the one who hits several times in a row keeping the other weak, or the one who gets the next crit hit.  Well, that just means the better fighter has the better chance, but since they rest between shots, it compounds the advantage.
 
So I might make the current Great Honor setting go away and be something you do just in sparring or in some sort of training strategy.
 
Also note, if I didn't say it before, that anytime your opponent rests, it means you almost got him.  So when you see a fight with resting on both sides, it was a close match.  I've also debated recording hits as the total of hits and times you were blocked... because the current way is a little misleading... you hit and through no fault of your own, your opponent blocked... the current way makes it seem like you were less effective hitting then it should.

ta'pez won vs khoal  with a batleth  
 
lost vs khoal with the meQleth  
 
 
 
whats the difference