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A little something I engineered. (Read 43687 times)
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #120 - on: Nov 20th, 2005, 10:02pm
 


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Quote from K`rahl on Nov 20th, 2005, 6:49pm:
Quote from Ta`pez on Nov 20th, 2005, 5:28pm:
i dont see how anybody here including K'hare and K'rahl are dahar masters

And no one here is.

K'Hare won't accept someone claiming they are a Dahar Master I don't think.

 
No, I don't allow people to claim that are Dahar Masters.  When they do at the tourney, I look very closely at their bios.
 
One of the problems right now is that the number of skill levels is too low.  I am thinking of making it worse by making it a number from 1-27, not just 1-9.  Right now, ta'pez and K'Hare and K'rahl have essentially the same skill because there isn't the resolution to do more.  I will change that.  At that point, I expect ta'pez and K'rahl to have a higher overall skill than K'Hare, but K'Hare will have the strength advantage.
 
They other way I might go is to remove the question totally in favor of a single question about overal hand to hand skill and then ask specific questions about each weapon.  But as long as I have a say in BF, no PC will be a Dahar Master.  Someday I might retire K'Hare and call him one but I can't imagine him still being my primary character and being at that level.  Same with being a Thought Admiral which technically, someone K'Hare's age could do.
 
K'Hare, ta'pez, and K'rahl should be the best Klingon fighters in BF because we have the history.  Satian should be up there too and once I build the new app to let me review stuff, I will probably encourage him to move things up a little.  As one of the owners of the competition, one of my jobs is making sure we don't have people walk in with a new character, just a few months old, who is better than everyone else.   Its not fair to the people who put the time in.  I had this conversation with Satian a year ago and he accepted it and since then, I have watched his simm and stuff, and he has put the time in.  (That's why I know all about the happenings on his ship.)  Eventually, Kral will be there too if that game continues on strong.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #121 - on: Nov 20th, 2005, 10:08pm
 


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Quote from K`rahl on Nov 20th, 2005, 6:59pm:
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Quote from K`rahl on Nov 20th, 2005, 5:51am:
My match with Satian looks very close but mostly my way... Yet I lost.

Is that 'Satian's perfect strike makes K'rahl trip over himself' one of those instant winners?



You were winning 'on points' and if you note, he got more glory because you should win most of the time. The 'perfect strike makes the other trip over himself' means one fighter got a critical hit and ther other got a critical miss on the block. A 'perfect strike slips past the defenses' means a critical hit versus a succesful block, but not a critical succesful block... if that makes sense. All the ones about the blocks being better then the attacks mean a critical success on the block and just a simple hit or a miss on the attack. The damage varries of course.

The combination here wasn't an instant win but at that point, both of you were tired. The number of breaks shows you that you had him ready to lose many more times but he got a strong hit at a point where you were tired.

Cool, cheers. I wasn't sure if the word variations were seperate things. Now I know they are combinations, which is good. Should be able to 'read' the other meanings now with the example you've put.

 
 
I am surprised no one asked about this before.  I have purposely hidden details but since you have asked and its not so hard to see...
 
There are six results of attacking:   double crit miss, crit miss, miss, hit, critical hit, double critical hit.     A strong or solid hit is usually a critical and a perfect strike is a double crit.
 
There are six results of blocking:  double crit miss, crit miss, miss, block, crit block, and double crit block.  Same text rules but blocks are a little hidden by the strike that hit them.
 
A perfect strike that makes the attacker trip over themselves is a double critical hit against a critical miss of the block.  It is very rare.    The double critical hit aginst a double critical failure block is one way to instantly lose.  The odds are 1/500,000 or worse...  and we have seen it once, in that saji fight against Toran where she knocked him out.  And yes, Ing could do it to K'Hare if the dice make it happen.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #122 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 1:11am
 


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When you look at the skill levels and styles...  
 
I assume most Klingons will have a higher skill in 'Death' than most aliens...  After all most aliens do not carry these blades into combat time and time again.  K'rahl has been in numerous combats to the death in game - not counting the hundreds of combats that will have occured outwith the writings in the games.  This - to me at least - seems obvious.
 
But there are Klingon rituals involving combat that an alien also should be disadvantaged when attempting - again a huge cultural difference.  But then, why would the alien be doing these?  IN BF who can tell.
 
Not sure we'll be actually needing the 'death' one of course...  I guess my point is pointless...
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #123 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 1:40am
 


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K`rahl i have set 2 more match requests so that this question of a lucky hit can be settled, and im addiceted to the sparing  
 
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #124 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 1:58am
 


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Interesting results too...
 
There are distinct similarities between those two latest spars.
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Reply #125 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 3:13am
 


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Quote from K`rahl on Nov 20th, 2005, 6:45pm:
I've repeatedly told you in IMs that I'm sick of the stupidity of calling me a Tribble Lover, etc.
 
 
I have not recieved a single IM from you on this - but irregardles this is not reason.  
 
 
 
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I've asked you politely many times to stop both this and the constant OOC stiring about K'rahl/Q'olavraH/ K'Hare.
 
 
So now I am not allowed to comment on what I see in the ploy and how my interpretation is, for Pete's sake they have a kid together - would you not expect me to hold that view (especially since you have just stated that my outlook on honor and what others do are polar oposites of what we assume).  It is OOC - prove me otherwise - adress the issue IC - this is a prod to do something about  a topic that has not been adressed. At the same time I extend the same challange to the other two - btw I have prodded and stated numerous times things that I dont see IC that should be there.  I play a character that doesnt have a pretty past or certain action, I play them out and do as should be done to the full extent to show what happens when you pick some of the less desirable choices.  I am sorry how is K'rahl going to deal with the foul cheng nad others who whisper behind his back about the child of K'brd Lok blood raised by K'hare. Would you not expect from somebody who disrespects you IC to insinuate just that. How is that any different then the insuniations that the more proper imperials wield against my house and story. I mean to a degree this is rediculous. K'Hare though the issue of Ta'pez and what his heritage was needed to be adressed he did so with my aknowledgement and support both IC and OOC - why is this such a touchy thing to - after all are we not allowed to poke holes into the egos of our overblown klingon character.  
 
 
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You just ignore my requests. So why you think I should appreciate you continually doing it is lost on me.
 
 
I have yet to recieve an aswer to the many greetings I left on your IM - are you actually recieving them - what IM are you using.  
 
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And Its OK to pass comment in public about things that are said in public as long as its not offensively worded. I did not type any of the words I've said out loud about this sort of thing.

Once upon a time it was funny, the time past - at least a year ago.
 
 
What changed?  
 
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Fair game for comment is the superior attitude of K'rahl. The way he thinks the p'Dra'on are elite. The way his self confidence and such can make him blind to things around him. His honour, that is fair game between all Klingons especially when your view on honour and mine are pretty much polar opposites. In fact you ought to be able to get endless jokes and jibes out of that kind of thing.
 
 
but that is exactly what i am doing - dont you see that?  
 
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So, in public, I repeat my polite request. Stop it.
I already said it would not be further bother.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #126 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 3:21am
 


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In the first construction of the page I had death matches but I disabled it.  If two people really want to do it, I will let it happen... but I will enforce it on KDB.  (:}
 
I didn't get as much done this weekend as I wanted.  Damn real life getting in the way.  I am working on an app that lets me look at all the settings at once.  Not done yet but I have already corrected a a few things.
 
Khoal, t'lai, and qul'yIt have been corrected. Seems the players of them all did the wrong thing for strength.  Those players should contact me if that have questions... but again, Klingons ARE NOT extra strong.  I've already slapped around Khoal's player.  I might, later, put in something to count the strength advantage of Klingons over humans, but already, the slight bonus for pointy ears seems to give them too much of an advantage.  I will probably drop the bonus down some and half it again when sparring.
 
I think I forgot to mention something last time... the strength advantage.  A stronger opponent would be able to wield the weapon better so a Vulcan wouldn't get as tired using the thing, if he did know the basic moves.  Whereas anyone using one of those vulcan things with the big rock on the end would tire.  Maybe later I will make some fatigue model.  I still have more to do to review stats of all the fighters and will make more corrections.  And I still plan to make the skill question more complex.
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Reply #127 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 3:31am
 


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the vulcan thing with the rock on it is a lu'pra and it is bladed on one side for cutting and slashing and the other is weighted at 50 lbs and is used for striking and crushing. it is held and used like a staff
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Reply #128 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 8:36am
 


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I have made some changes in the program and removed the authorization for everyone to spar.  This means you have to reedit yourself and click the 'I want to spar button' again.   This will happen from time to time.  The changes I made required you reselecting some values.
 
You will note I added some other weapons.  No, it doesn't do anything yet, but its in there for the future.
 
I reduced the strength bonus and made it not count as much in sparring.  The fights with Satian and K'rahl show that it needed doing.
 
I finally worked out why K'Hare was still winning.  The rank code was more significant that I thought so the one rank difference made a noticable difference in the combat.  I wanted to redo how it worked, and I did, so its fixed now... or at least different.  Need to have fights with the top 4 and see what happens.
 
I have an app that lets me check all the stats in a glance.  There were a lot of minor problems.  Hopefully this redo of the bio edits will fix them.
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Reply #129 - on: Nov 21st, 2005, 11:13pm
 


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I put in the links so that in the sparring room you can click on a fighter and go to their bio.  Also, I forgot to put Daqtagh in the weapons list.  It is there now, please go set your stats for it too.  Still not using weapon types or reach or stamina... but those things will come.
 
Also, I added something called combat theory where you can put how you will fight.  You are obligated but you can give a hint there so people know how you want to be challenged.  Like "I fight with Honor against those worse than me and Dirty if they are better."  
 
And did I mention this?:  http://kdb.batlh.com/cgi-bin/db/check_fighters.cgi
 
Its the program I use to take a quick glance at all the fighters to spot problems.  That function wont work for you but the order the fighters listed is the order of the attack skills. Suran, an NPC who is 'missing' from KDB is an old Vulcan combat master.  He is supposed to have a skill no one can match.  I will try to have NPCs of all levels over time.  Look at the bios for a clue about them.
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Reply #130 - on: Nov 22nd, 2005, 4:28am
 


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i seem to be getting the hell kicked out of me more often,  I Like it
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Reply #131 - on: Nov 22nd, 2005, 2:49pm
 




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When I click any fighter bio it always gives me the bio for the challenger... a bug I think.
 
ie:
 
Taylor challenges K'Hare will give me Taylor's bio if I click K'Hare's link.
 
 
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Reply #132 - on: Nov 22nd, 2005, 3:12pm
 


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Quote from Taylor on Nov 22nd, 2005, 2:49pm:
When I click any fighter bio it always gives me the bio for the challenger... a bug I think.

 
That's what happens when you cut and paste in a rush.  Fortunately, the bug was in the template, not the data files.  A simple two character fix and its correct now.
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Reply #133 - on: Dec 2nd, 2005, 3:33am
 


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btw just so you know - theres something rather curious i saw on there - Ta'pez got more glory when fighting Saitain with honor - then when he was fighting him with great honor.  
 
 
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Reply #134 - on: Dec 2nd, 2005, 6:21am
 


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Quote from Ta`pez on Dec 2nd, 2005, 3:33am:
btw just so you know - theres something rather curious i saw on there - Ta'pez got more glory when fighting Saitain with honor - then when he was fighting him with great honor.

 
ta'pezx get's lots of glory for dishonorable deeds..... what's your point?  (:}
 
 
Glory is based on the number of hits and blocks in a fight with more for criticals.  Basically its the number of times the crowd oohhed and aaahhhhed.  There is also a glory bonus to the weaker fighter and the winner.  
That's why roS fighting ta'pez gets more glory.   Right now the glory from the combat is shared, so roS gets glory from ta'pez hitting him a bunch before he finally gets knocked out.
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