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A little something I engineered. (Read 43676 times)
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #150 - on: Dec 5th, 2005, 3:19pm
 


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Before or after I had Suran teach me a secret family style for over a year?
 
In other words, I got better.
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Reply #151 - on: Dec 5th, 2005, 6:42pm
 


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Quote from K`Hare totlh on Dec 5th, 2005, 3:19pm:
Before or after I had Suran teach me a secret family style for over a year?

In other words, I got better.

 
 
This was pointed @ Ness
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Reply #152 - on: Dec 5th, 2005, 10:42pm
 


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Quote from Ta`pez on Dec 5th, 2005, 1:22pm:
You do realize that your sparring skills are out of step with what you portray IC

 
As in... too high, too low?  I have been practicing since our last practice session, Ta'pez. I've been on the ship for a few years now.  And I set my settings as honestly as possible.
 
EDIT: I find humor in this.  I have beaten Ta'pez and K'Hare and nearly noone else.  Kinda backwards, don't you think?
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Reply #153 - on: Dec 5th, 2005, 10:57pm
 


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I have a feature request.  Can K'Hare do it?  Or is it too great a task for even him to "engineer"?
 
Howbout a scoreboard, but not just a normal one.  The points you gain for each match are variable.
 
You gain more points for winning with honor
You get good points for winning dirty
You get some points for losing with honor
You lose a few points for losing dirty
 
Also, it'd be cool if you gained more points for defeating players with a higher rated skill than your own.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #154 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 1:53am
 


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According to the list I read Ness is fifth from bottom.  His skill is rated as worse than Frem (who is quite well skilled for a non-Klingon) so it looks OK to me.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #155 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 1:58am
 


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Yeh, except Ness IC is not supposed to have much skill with a batletH.
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Reply #156 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 3:06am
 


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As of 3 years ago maybe!
 
I've picked up a few skills.  Maybe not in the middle of a real combat, but I can spar ok.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #157 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 2:23pm
 


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I remember well the incident on the holdeck - Ness didn't realise we had safety off as standard and he went there to train.  He'd only been with us a week or so IC I guess.  His next stop was Sickbay.
 
If he was still like that he'd be fun to watch sparring himself...
 
I would have been surprised if he outskilled Frem, for example, as we know from the first Tourney that Frem can indeed fight quite proficiently.  Anyone who never saw him fight, if you've beaten him it means you are quite competent, he's about as good as a Ferengi can get...  OK, if you lost to Frem that might not be any comfort.
 
If Flim was
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Reply #158 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 2:35pm
 


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Oh my...  *laughs*
 
I think Frem forgot his fighting stance there...  How amusing to see the little runt lose because he didn't cheat...
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Reply #159 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 7:12pm
 


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Yeah... I really need to put in something that lets the two fighters comment after it is over.
 
But as you see, I haven't had time to put in the code to make ness always lose so he beat Frem, which is an unlikely outcome.
 
From that fight you see that it looks like misses went up.  I need to look into that.  It's bugged me since I made the change to remove the round off problem.  It seems like everyone misses more (see the first blood match where ness beats K'Hare).  I could tune up things so missing doesn't happen so much and blocking happens more... the net effect should be about the same but there would be less swishing.  What do people think?
 
I also need to put in something that allows for someone to decline.  I know I am mostly ignoring first blood combat now.  Maybe I will play with them again once I put in the thing to let you fight differently... i.e. agressive or defensive...etc.   Or maybe I should alter first blood so that everyone fights with a defense bonus/attack minus... since the point is the first hit.  Again, comments?
 
But really, I don't have much time to play with the combat app.  There is too much to do before the betleH comp.  It will only get more changes before betleH 4 if I get in the right mood.  But after, I have a bunch of things planned... like using the different weapons.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #160 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 7:17pm
 


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Quote from JakeNess on Dec 5th, 2005, 10:57pm:
I have a feature request. Can K'Hare do it? Or is it too great a task for even him to "engineer"?

Howbout a scoreboard, but not just a normal one. The points you gain for each match are variable.

You gain more points for winning with honor
You get good points for winning dirty
You get some points for losing with honor
You lose a few points for losing dirty

Also, it'd be cool if you gained more points for defeating players with a higher rated skill than your own.

 
 
That is already in the works.  If nothing else, the sparring stage will be in place for betleH 4.  That is, it will be available the same way it is for KDB, for fun.  Anyone can challange anyone and such.  I wont edit the skills of people there... that would be too much work.  So expect skill inflation.  But I will need some scoreboard.  The complexity will grow over time.  But think about the problem.  Does roS and ness get to the top simply because they challenge every other person every day and gain the most points over time, or is the ranking based on average gain and weighted by number of fights?  Its not simple.  But some sort of scoreboard that shows average and total points will be available.
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Re: A little something I engineered.
Reply #161 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 7:32pm
 


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Quote from JakeNess on Dec 5th, 2005, 4:34am:
I looked through the records briefly and I haven't seen ANY incident of K'Hare losing.  I wanna see the code.  I bet there is a few lines of code that automatically define K'Hare as the winner if he participated.

 
Interesting.. here you accuse K'Hare of cheating.
 
 
Quote from JakeNess on Dec 5th, 2005, 6:12am:
All I was saying was that I didn't see any incidents of K'Hare losing.  Any everyone has an off-day sometime.  I wasn't implying anything malicious.
 
 
EDIT: I stand corrected. I just beat K'Hare by First Blood.  I guess the K'Hare can fail once in a while.
 
 
Then here you make a big deal about beating him... so is he cheating or not.. and if he is cheating then why make a big deal out of winning a rigged fight?  *but then... if it was rigged he wouldn't have won Smiley *
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Reply #162 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 8:40pm
 


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Actually Frem forgot to adjust his Honour setting.  The default used to be blank so if a player forgot to enter one it wouldn't work.  So it messes with Ferengi when they forget to click...
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Reply #163 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 8:47pm
 


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The thing with First Blood is that in fact it could take a long time to fight in truth, instead of one or two blows.  In a First Blood fight the winning or losing is determined in one blow, lucky or skilled.  So there would be more circling. more feignts.  And even fighting with Honourr you would still take a good shot at an opponent's mistake.  First Blood is ABOUT using the mistake.
 
If anything First Blood is closer to a real fight.  Remember by 'real' I refer to a Klingon fight to the death or a serious challenge, not a sport.  The Tourney is a sport, fair play is much more clear cut in a Tourney.
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Reply #164 - on: Dec 6th, 2005, 9:20pm
 


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Quote from K`rahl on Dec 6th, 2005, 8:47pm:
The thing with First Blood is that in fact it could take a long time to fight in truth, instead of one or two blows.  In a First Blood fight the winning or losing is determined in one blow, lucky or skilled.  So there would be more circling. more feignts.  And even fighting with Honourr you would still take a good shot at an opponent's mistake.  First Blood is ABOUT using the mistake.

If anything First Blood is closer to a real fight.  Remember by 'real' I refer to a Klingon fight to the death or a serious challenge, not a sport.  The Tourney is a sport, fair play is much more clear cut in a Tourney.

 
 
 
there is some merit in this -
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