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Reply #180 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 1:33pm
 


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Quote from Ta`pez on Dec 10th, 2005, 4:33pm:
also slight update - chrystal fox wants to join this - create a bio for her if you could

 
Yes please
 
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Reply #181 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 3:17pm
 


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I haven't added any of these extra people because I don't really want to have the crews of every other ship on KDB.  My original plan was to put a sparring room on each ship and then maybe have another one on the BFKC site that had everyone on it.  Setting it up this way means that each CO could review his crewman and make sure the stats were at least consistent.  
 
Right now, what stops Ness from setting his skill up to the max?  I don't know how much of a combat monster he is so how can I check it and why would I want to?  ta'pez might allow an ex-borg or robot crewman who gets the strength bonus... why do I want to verify that this guy has his settings right?
 
The point of putting a few other crewman on the KDB page was a temp thing so ta'pez and others could test it out.  I added all of the crew that ta'pez had in db.cgi.  I added a few of Satian's that I knew were into betleH combat (i.e. Tucker).   After the next betleH tourney (and maybe before) I will setup a betleH room for Satian's ship and I will come up with a way to link all of his crew to a more central one.  I will do the same for KDB.  But one cost of using the program is using my bio program.  That's how its configured.  Maybe I will setup a way to be listed on the BFKC site if you aren't on a ship that uses db.cgi.  But I have to work out a plan for it.
 
Sometime soon I will be redoing the KDB crew list.  At that point, I suspect only the active KDB players and the CH crew will have access to the Sparring thing until I decide how to deal with the 'extras'.
 
 
 
Also, I am probably going to change how glory works.  Right now, you get extra glory for challenging someone whose skill is much higher.  ness has taken that to an extreme.  (Everyone has noticed the new stat page, right?)  Most of the time people should be sparring and Glory is reduced.  The disarm fight would be a more serious fight and should have a greater chance of gettting you injured.  I have to figure out how to deal with that.  Glory is reduced for all fights but Disarm fights.  
 
So either I am going to reduce glory for fights where you lose, or I am going to report damage in Disarm fights and maybe restrict how much damage you take each day or week.  In character, the only person who is fighting full out, with the danger of real injury is roS.  So he ought to have the most glory.
 
I am happy to see that the dishonor column on the stats page is almost empty.  K'Hare and Suran have some but that's because I did four matches, at different honor settings to hint at the effects of GH and VD.  Outside of that, no one else but the truely dishonorable have gained any dishonor.
 
 
So, any comments on how I should deal with the sparring rooms?  The code requires you be on a db.cgi page somewhere.  I could make one giant central one for every PC and NPC in BFKC.  And then figure out how to deal with the automation of it.  But then what keeps ej from claiming high skill when I think he should be below roS?   Do I make this something that only works on KDB and CH and then there is some interaction between some from CH and KDB because I link it up when the CH visits?  Does everyone understand the problem?
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Reply #182 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 3:20pm
 


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And a side note.  You do know that crystal would be barred from entry of KDB, right?  I don't mean I would not allow her as a character (though I wouldn't but not for the reason you think), but if she tried to get onto KDB she'd be blocked by security.
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Reply #183 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 3:56pm
 


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Quote from K`Hare totlh on Dec 12th, 2005, 3:20pm:
And a side note. You do know that crystal would be barred from entry of KDB, right? I don't mean I would not allow her as a character (though I wouldn't but not for the reason you think), but if she tried to get onto KDB she'd be blocked by security.

 
 
 
You are being cryptic -and she already spend a considerable amount of time on KDB - PM me if you want to elaborate on this.
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Reply #184 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 4:34pm
 


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See... this is an example of what I mean.  Anyone want to explain why crystal would be stopped at the gates?
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Reply #185 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 4:53pm
 


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How long is your list K'Hare?
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Reply #186 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 5:45pm
 


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Which list?
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Reply #187 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 6:00pm
 


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the list of stickler rules - honestly if you want people to follow it - letting them know what they are  would be a good this - you know - the folder with Simm FAQ would be an ideal place to post them in
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Reply #188 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 7:22pm
 


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OK, I was hoping someone else would post what I meant.  I know many in my crew know.  But this is why people need to check with me before coming to KDB.  EJ did and sadly I had to tell him I didn't have time to deal with his arrival because of when he showed up.  Drake didn't and we saw the problem that caused.
 
KDB is a Klingon environment, so no replicators for the most part.  That is mentioned on the base info pages. Yes, they are incomplete, but there is just so much time in the day.  If I hadn't been overwhelmed when EJ tried to go to KDB this is what would have happened.
 
1.  I would have said, OK, visit, and I would have insited on a bio appearing on the KDB pages first.  Everyone who shows up on KDB should have a bio.  If the CH visits I will point people at the CH manifest.  Some NPCs have no bios.  Mostly the unamed background people.  I try to put up a bio for all the named NPCs.  Reminds, me, I don't think I ever put on up for ma'tar.  Oops.   The point is, had crystal gotten the stamp to come aboard, a bio would have been posted somewhere.
 
2.  Upon entering, security, i.e. me would have read the bio.   The fact that crystal is a telepath would have been noted and she would have gotten special treatment.  This is a well known paranoia of K'Hare's.  Ask Tank Chandler what happened at the second betleH tourney.
 
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I didn't explain to Tank why this happened until after the tourney.  I couldn't believe that no one asked me why this happened.  He was one of the few betazoids that attended.  He got the treatment.  Anyone from a telepathic race is going to get the treatment.  Yes, some will slip by.  But there is this UNWRITTEN rule about it.  Had I had time for crystal to show up, to deal with it, that's what would have happened.
 
So I can only assume that crystal showed up on the base and someone goofed and they she never used her telepathy or telekinesis in a way that was noticed by security.  Ta'pez should know there are telepathy counter measures that are still unexplained on the base.  There is at least one plot there that hasn't hatched.
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Reply #189 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 8:06pm
 


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Reply #190 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 8:09pm
 


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Not quiet, krahl but none the less - while you reading the bio is interesting - as a matter of fact most security would not know they are telepathic.
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Reply #191 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 8:32pm
 


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If the race was know to have telepaths they'd know that.  If they are a member of Starfleet its part of their service record unless they hide it.  The meH'Haj bio reads as if its no big surprise that she is a telepath.
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Reply #192 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 8:48pm
 


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Quote from K`Hare totlh on Dec 12th, 2005, 8:32pm:
If the race was know to have telepaths they'd know that. If they are a member of Starfleet its part of their service record unless they hide it. The meH'Haj bio reads as if its no big surprise that she is a telepath.

 
 
To what extent would the security be aware of this - i mean i assume theres something like a passanger manifest - but lowly guard on the KDB station wouldnt know this - i am not saying that it would not.  
 
 
 
edit: let me elaborate on this  
 
 
whenever a ship lands you would have several manifest submitted by the ship. This would be  
 
passanger  
crew  
cargo
 
 
each manifest would have certain details about these people but i doubt that this would be something whether the dock security would have access to their service record. more importantly would they know it - the question is is Chrystals race apparent and if all of her fellow whatever are emphaths.  
 
The TSA dood @ BWI asks for my ID - most of those IDs dont have my background (i.e drivers licence doesnt say i am a foreigner - though my name might be a tip off on some)
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Reply #193 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 9:13pm
 


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Everyone who comes on the base is checked.  You walk on, you have some sort of ID.  You are scanned for weapons.  Your biology is not scanned.  But your identity is known.  If you don't have an identity, you are looked at closer.  Somehow, people have identification.  What is canon is that those in starfleet on the KDF hand over a PADD with there info.
 
So coronel nerys comes to KDB.  She hands over an ID that says she is a vulcan diplomat.  Security would balk at that.  Or if she claimed to be human.  They'd look at her nose and say.. I don't think so.  If someone came to the base and identified themselves as a betazed, security would take an interest.  Note that this wasn't true in K'rahl's reign (as far as I know).  It certainly wasn't as overt.
 
The K'Hears incident just made it worse.  There is still security on the base preventing transport unless the base is in control.  People are looked at a little more closely.  A security officer will scan you if he thinks you need it but his medical scan isn't going to get transferred to the database unless there is a reason.  This is how ta'pez and K'Hare stayed hidden for so long.
 
crystal came to the base with a federation service record and her business was to await transfer to the meH'Haj.  I would have had fun locking her up in security if I had the time to deal with her when she came to KDB.  So this time, she got lucky and security either watched her covertly and she slipped in because one guard wasn't paying attention.  But consider.  You enter the base.  Your 'passport' is scanned and logged.  The main computer is setup to flag problems.  YES! We profile!.  The computer should have blipped and said this is a telepath, perform the telepath protocols.
 
Think of it this way.  You are entering the US and there is a terrorist flag on anyone of your ethic background flying in from Saudi Arabia.  Would the computers catch that?  Would the security officer at the boarder need to know about it?  No, the computer would flag you and tell him what to do.
 
No, this isn't posted anywhere.... well it is now, in here.  But this is why I told EJ I didn't have time to deal with him when he showed up.  Normally I would have checked the bio and caught this and surprised him with anal probes and other security measures.  I would have pointed him to the more overt info (the stuff in the KDB database).  If Drake had pinged me before posting I would have said, no, I am too busy, probably.  But if I had the time I would have pointed her(?) to the KDB info.  And hopefully that would have meant the bull riding thing would never have happened.  And yes, the bull riding thing did not happen on KDB.  fed entertainment is not on KDB.  Klingons have their own stuff.  The sparring room, the tables with the knives for arm wrestling, etc.   And no tribbles either.
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Reply #194 - on: Dec 12th, 2005, 9:28pm
 


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In my day I'd make strangers stay on their ships.  I even insisted on boarding some.  But you are right K'Hare, I did not routinely trawl for Empaths or Telepaths.  Given what I went through with some of those...  I should have.
 
Security is tight on any base.  Expect Federation egos to get bruised on a Klingon one.
 
Not only that but who has the decision on how tight security goes?  The CO.
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